How will I know I’m collecting the royalties that I deserve? That’s quite an undertaking you’ve got going there! We’re both registered with PROs as both a writer and publisher, and Songtrust collects several royalty streams that PROs don’t. If you’ve already got songs registered with your PRO, they’ll pull them into their system for free. This can make a big difference in some cases. This thread being as old as it is, I was surprised to see someone successfully used it last month! Songtrust and TuneCore Publishing are publishing administrators. Launched: 1939 My guess is you don’t have your own publishing company, so it just shows Songtrust. We have entered into a license with Facebook in the USA and have various licenses in other territories as well. Why Songtrust; Who Uses Songtrust. Here’s to everyone’s success. But royalties never appear like magic. Their system for tracking plays is much more advanced. Is that mechanical royalty money you also retrieve? You need an account to post a reply. I will let you know how it goes, maybe “staff writer” isn’t the right term!!! When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. It Gets Worse. pretty bad honestly…. It seems that there are a lot of artists that have something to say about this! And definitely sign up for SoundExchange ASAP! With CD Baby Pro, royalty collection is bundled with digitial distribution. There are many companies who seem to be offering lots of services in this regard, some overlap and some do not. I have had more optimal customer service experience with Songtrust, more so than Tunecore Publishing. The title’s are similar but aren’t my songs. At present the royalties are paid out by market share but we hope to move this to a play by play basis as soon as possible(this is up to Facebook). All my releases are with CD Baby. Thanks for this candid, well-written article. Those two agencies will most likely collect the vast majority of royalties for you. like most of already do. You can work with other plugging companies. Songtrust look great but with 15% commission and a 2% fee to deposit funds seems a bit steep. . If you would like to create a Songtrust account please use an alternate email address.”. Also, I’ve already put out 12 songs, 9 this year, 32 more already scheduled to release this year, am I going to have to pay to register for each 10 songs that I decide to put out? It cleared a lot of things up for me. It’s 99 cents minus Apple’s 30% minus CD Baby’s 9%. CD Baby Pro partners with Songtrust. Hopefully they’ve upped their support game since! But BMI is a PRO, so that’s different. Creators Songwriters, producers and creators collect royalties globally from your songs while keeping 100 percent of the rights. It’s not like CD Baby takes a week to distribute my material. Also, he says that in the US the aggregator (like CD baby) pays the mechanical royalty. There is a lot to learn and like one person above mentioned, so many hands dipping into the pot these days, it is more confusing than clarifying when you get out there and try to figure out what step to actually take next or what company to bring on board. Hi Brian, Etch-A-Sketch I’m pretty sure you can use Songtrust for songs you’ve written for others, but I’ll ask them to clarify. They offer blanket music licenses to busi… Thanks. A publishing administrator, such as Songtrust, has direct relationships with these various pay sources throughout the world (including HFA, MRI, and MediaNet) which allows us to register your songs globally and collect any royalties generated within those territories. Thanks for all the info. If so, it’s much better to sign directly with Songtrust…, I’m just wondering as I want to distribute my music via CD Baby and sign with their publishing service, but I’m not sure if they take an additional cut after Songtrust take theirs. Thanks. There would undoubtedly be co-writers involved in any finished article. https://aristake.com/?post=92. So question one: Is it possible to claim my royalties for works as old as 2014?? Why Songtrust; Who Uses Songtrust. Yes, you still need to register with a PRO and SoundExchange. Any such licenses will be between you and your licensees. 1 I figured that since I’d earned a few hundred bucks from Spotify via CD Baby, the mechanical royalties Songtrust would collect for me would cover the cost of signing up. What has everyone’s experience been with each? So essentially, CD Baby + Songtrust = TuneCore + TuneCore Publishing. Hi Brian, great info on Songtrust – just what I needed to know and when I needed to know it. Can you tell me if CD Baby PRO takes a % after Songtrust takes theirs? If I were in your shoes, my first call would be to your prospective PRO. Should you also join Songtrust? Thank you. When you register your titles with ASCAP the money is split with 50% to the writer and 50% to the publisher so you have to register with ASCAP as a writer and a publisher. Feel free to advocate on my behalf. Thank you Brian, CJ, and Joe for the replies! It’s just odd that I always got paid once a year from cdbaby, going over 100 dollars including having many “downloads”. It’s important to note that if you entered into a ‘Work For Hire’ agreement where you’re paid an upfront fee for your contribution to a song, you may have given up any ownership stake on the song and would not be entitled to royalties. I’m here in London. Well, from your PRO or your admin publisher. The sign up process was very easy and I will report back with some stats/ info. The promoter guessed I’d get back about $1500 in royalties from the airplay, but I never got a penny, despite hounding ASCAP for months. I'm trying to add myself as a songwriter but its not allowing me to. I really have appreciated your feedback. Songtrust and Adrev are in my mind as there’s no law in my country that protects you against copyrights infringement. My understanding is, as you described, that CD Baby collects the domestic mechanical royalty. You also retain the right to collect the sync license fees from those licenses.” If you’re already receiving both writer and publisher royalties from your PRO, and have less than 150K streams, the decision is more difficult. Or is Songtrust the go to? They should be able to field all your questions, and if they’re not familiar with Songtrust, that might inform your decision too. I see lots of people getting into the industry and so many people (myself included) don’t know anything about PROs, ISRCs, publishing, licensing etc. I used the discount code … I was already planning to sign up so this worked great for me. Am I correct in understanding that TuneCore and CDBabyPro both digitally distribute your music (ie: putting it on iTunes, Spotify, etc) as well as collect international royalties, while Songtrust only collects the international royalties but leaves distributing the music up to the artist? I believe there are still problems for the songwriter. Thanks again! I wouldn’t let that stop me. Let me just say thank you Brian for this informative and detailed article! Of course if a coffee shop has the AM/FM radio playing, and if you’re with ASCAP, you (most likely) won’t get paid when your song is played there, because ASCAP most likely won’t be conducting a survey of that radio station at that exact moment, but if the shop has Pandora or SiriusXM on (or other piped-in Muzak services), this is tracked and you will (eventually) get paid on the plays. Sorry I’m a bit of a cynic. The site stated NOTHING about charging $10 per song. Now for the next decision – Distrokid vs CD Baby (standard)…. Yep, I’ve gotten those a bunch! I just wanted to share my positive experience with DistroKid. Thank you very much for writing. Thanks for the recommendation Nicole! I’ prefer to use a few companies as possible and don’t want to overlap, having 2 companies doing the same thing. I’m thinking registering with Distrokid or Indigoboom and waiting with registering with an admin publisher. I know for a fact that I should be due a lot more than 20 cents, for example one song I own the master and publishing rights to has over 24,000 streams on Spotify alone. So, that’s another instance where a publishing admin would be important, right? ; Businesses Get complete song performance insights and new ways to collect revenue. ; Creator Reps Managers and lawyers connect with the most extensive, accessible publishing network in the industry. Even if the numbers didn’t work out in my favor, I’d still be glad I went with Songtrust. what about if you already with a p.r.o. The plan is to go to a record company and try get a deal to write exclusively for them. For a $100 setup fee and 15% commission, Songtrust will help you sign up with a PRO (ASCAP, BMI, SOCAN, IMRO, etc) if you’re not already. Remember TAXI, I think they helped a lot of people but I could never afford them. My mechanical royalties through Soundtrust are pretty meager! Why Songtrust; Who Uses Songtrust. So i’m looking elsewhere and will be gradually moving everything over. Otherwise you’re potentially leaving 50% of your royalties on the table. This, for me, is a deal breaker because I expect Songtrust to be passive, having so many other songwriters. You have to pay 10$ for each 10 following tracks, so it’s actually not a one time fee as with Tunecore. The International Standard Musical Work Code (ISWC) is an 11-character alphanumeric code or international identification system cataloging individual compositions (usually songs), rather than recordings. I would like to believe that I’m well covered as far as royalty collections. I’m not sure about TikTok royalties but the odds of having a song take off there are incredibly slim, and an occasional usage isn’t going to move the needle. Unless you mean TuneCore is handling digital distribution, and you also put it on the CD Baby store. Appreciate the thoughtful analysis. you pay once if your release does nothing for you, but cdbaby takes 9% of everything you earn. I’m not sure what you’re expecting of them. doesn't do. It WAS! I’m learning as I go. We do not register your music with any of the above. ; Businesses Get complete song performance insights and new ways to collect revenue. I hope this is accurate, and that Brian or someone will confirm or clarify if not. The 67 cents is when someone downloads, as oppose to streams, one of your tracks. ; Creator Reps Managers and lawyers connect with the most extensive, accessible publishing network in the industry. Obviously, the sooner you get on it, the better! Though lately I’ve been testing out LANDR for distribution and am happy with them as well! You should check your dashboard and make sure the songs actually get registered, and review your royalty statements. If you’re releasing and actively promoting your music, you need to be registered with a PRO and with SoundExchange. I’ve received $789 of that to date, $467 of which is US performance royalties that I would’ve collected through ASCAP anyway. Why Songtrust; Who Uses Songtrust. I know this is an older article but still very helpful. When you say “If you’ve racked up 150K streams of your music, you should probably join Songtrust.” Do you mean 150K streams across any platform per year? https://help.songtrust.com/customer/en/portal/articles/217607-can-i-join-if-i-already-have-a-publishing-deal-. I’m trying to decide between sentric and songtrust. Obviously you’re going to only say good things about it. We will only 102 albums are’international standard and she’ll. While you are right about the release day on their $20 plan, you can specify it for just a little more – $35 I believe. From Songtrust’s FAQ: Your account starts with 50 song credits for free. After cdbaby having probably 3 owners since I joined, I haven’t received on iTunes a payment that represents a “sale” as compared to “streaming”. I suppose it would depend on what kind of publishing deal you got, but assuming they didn’t want to take over admin, and solely based on my own experience, yes, Songtrust would then be listed as admin publisher. Step 1 : Sign Up For Direct Deposit with ASCAP Direct deposit is a requirement to submit set lists to ASCAP. The answer may be in earlier posts but I didn’t see it. ; Businesses Get complete song performance insights and new ways to collect revenue. like keep our content exclusive and gerenate traffic, offering Royalties deal to my artists. You don't need to be registered with a Performing Rights Organization in order to collect your earnings from the stores you distribute to via DistroKid, but you're welcome to do register your works with them for additional publishing administration outside of DistroKid. Are your songs showing up as registered in the dashboard? About Songtrust Songtrust is the world’s largest technology solution for global music royalty collection and publishing administration, enabling 170,000+ songwriters and more than 20,000 publishers to collect their publishing royalties worldwide for over 1,500,000 copyrights. I see two things that I seem to missing but I was hoping you could clarify. I’d love any advice in this regard. I am switching from what i feel is a BOGUS Distributor (DITTO MUSIC) to a better choice. It would be lovely if Songtrust offered better and alternative payment options for non-US residents using their services. That said, I agree 100% that you can’t just submit the tracks and trust that everything will work out. But, I also want to sync licensing capabilities. How do you know they’re lyrics and not poems? Unless you’re getting a lot of streams, don’t expect those mechanical royalties to add up to much. We act as a publishing administrator to collect publishing royalties on behalf of songwriters. HFA is not a publishing administrator, they are a mechanical licensing agency which means they get paid by digital streaming platforms like Spotify and Apple Music to collect and account for mechanical royalties generated on those platforms. Please clear my mind on that…. Artist definitely come out on top. I’m lucky to see $10 a quarter these days. Hi JM – Thats a great question and something a lot of people get confused about. Total deal breaker. Seems like a half dozen services I use offer it, like Repost Network, CD Baby, etc. You can hold off even setting up a publishing company until you’ve got royalties to collect, like a big sync placement. Worse, they can get a copyright claim after you told them it was okay to use the track. Are there any other options I overlooked? I will report back on it, hopefully soon. What I don’t understand about your article is that you mention Tunecore has a catch: you have to work with them exclusively for licensing. Songhunters.com will let you know all who are looking for a certain type of music and all I have to do is send in every song I have that fits what they want, the only problem is I have to send in 15 dollars for each song. You may know this by now, but DistroKid can do this for you. The comment dates help, but not ideal. I’ve heard great things about them from Pete Byrne of Naked Eyes. In any case, I think you’re better off registering direct with Songtrust once rather than paying extra for every release through CD Baby. I suspect that your ability to claim past royalties will depend on the PRO(s) involved. You have been great help. For most of us, that’s difficult if not impossible to forecast. Cool, thanks for your info, Brian. They have not responded to this. Songtrust works with over 50 of these pay sources so our clients only have to enter their song data once, into our platform, and we then send it out globally to all of our partners for registration. Creators Songwriters, producers and creators collect royalties globally from your songs while keeping 100 percent of the rights. TR. Secondly, if that is the case and I am left with either TuneCore or CDBabyPro, which would you recommend for somebody who will likely not release more than a couple singles and 1 album in the foreseeable future? If it really bothers you, I guess the next step is to contact your PRO and/or Harry Fox, but I don’t see any point in pursuing it. channels to just copy an release my artists work. You can’t even specify a release date on their $20/year plan! Until then, they won’t be out there earning royalties, and it doesn’t protect you from someone stealing your song like registering with the US Copyright office (which I personally wouldn’t bother with either). My personal feelings are that under new ownership of cdbaby I haven’t received one “download” in three years. This includes partnerships with ASCAP, MEDIANET, MCPS, SESAC, HFA and more. I’m not sure non-Premier artists can collect royalties, except through Repost, which SoundCloud just bought, so…. This is a complicated subject, as you’ve seen! If/when you do get paid, you’ll never know if it’s because of the extra licensing submission Songtrust did on your behalf, or whether HFA simply caught up. Also I’m not happy with cdbaby. Songtrust. Adrev just does youtube content id for songs and videos i believe, but they are not a publishing admin, right. should i sign up for songtrust? The American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP) is a not-for-profit organization. An ISWC is an identifier usually assigned by a collection society, like ASCAP in North America, to a musical work. Lastly, is there any other way aside from using Songtrust that would allow me to sign up with a PRO without having to make a vanity publishing company? I definitely don’t consider myself an expert in this stuff, but I’ll do my best! On a historical basis(2015-2018) 200-250k streams may be more likely to hit the $117.56 you need to recoup your $100 signup fee. So it’s not quite as simple for Brit songwriters to compare. I joined Songtrust a few months ago. Looks like a good service. Thanks again! Hello Brian..how do i apply for songtrust..how much its the fee…it is for a year?, ppl can downliad the music like in i- tunes so you get paid…how it works?..i’d apreciate Brian if you could also reply back on a direct msg on hotmail please. I have read you telling a few people that they shouldn’t be in a rush to attain a publishing admin until they create a fan base and have actual royalties to collect internationally. ; Creator Reps Managers and lawyers connect with the most extensive, accessible publishing network in the industry.

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