They would surely have included dates (see the commentary for 1 Nephi 8:1). 1 Nephi 17. Hope is believing, faith is asking, knowledge is receiving, and priesthood is becoming. 1 Nephi 13 1 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me saying, look! The Lord told me this is the Gift of the Holy Ghost. 14 And I looked to behold from whence it came; and I saw the head thereof a little way off; and at the head thereof I beheld your mother Sariah, and Sam, and Nephi; and they stood as if they knew not whither they should go. This is often the pattern for those seeking divine guidance. [At some point in your progression, as you receive a fullness of the Lord, you will be given an opportunity to partake of the fruit of the Tree of Life with your spouse. PR], [The fruit itself plays an important role in the Everlasting Covenant.] 3 Nephi 8:3. It always stuck with me until just now you pointing out they never entered the building but just refused the fruit. For some, it is to have an experience where they see the Savior in a dream or day vision, but that in itself does not guarantee that one has received the gift of the Holy Ghost. [A vision is often similar to a daylight dream, where you are awake yet seeing something in the Spirit.]. Often what we see is determined by the questions we ask. Nephi reports that they gathered “all manner of seeds of every kind, both of grain of every kind, and also of the seeds of fruit of every kind.” (1 Nephi 8:1). If they did not, this may be evidence of other times when the boys left camp. 13 And as I cast my eyes round about, that perhaps I might discover my family also, I beheld a river of water; and it ran along, and it was near the tree of which I was partaking the fruit. Every person is susceptible to this mist of darkness unless they grab hold of the rod. ( Log Out /  Thank you for the time you take to share this information! How would you live your life differently if you knew in 600 years there would be the Second Coming? do this when they migrate in earnest, packing the seed in big, black 150- to 180-pound sacks, two to a camel. but they would not come unto me and partake of the fruit. An Epic Record – 1 Nephi 9:1-6 → 18 Responses to Lehi’s Dream – 1 Nephi 8:1-38. Change ). 37 And he did exhort them then with all the feeling of a tender parent, that they would hearken to his words, that perhaps the Lord would be merciful to them, and not cast them off; yea, my father did preach unto them. 3 Nephi 8:11–12 Lehi is such an amazing man. ], 12 And as I partook of the fruit thereof it filled my soul with exceedingly great joy; [exquisite love and joy] wherefore, I began to be desirous that my family should partake of it also; for I knew that it was desirable above all other fruit. Thanks . 22 And it came to pass that they did come forth, and commence in the path which led to the tree. Dang you Richard Rich! 1 Nephi 8:1 1 And it came to pass that we had gathered together all manner of seeds of every kind, both of grain of every kind, and also of the seeds of fruit of every kind. ], 28 And after they had tasted of the fruit they were ashamed, because of those that were scoffing at them; and they fell away into forbidden paths and were lost. That would have required camel drivers and probably an armed escort made up of Lehi and Ishmael’s servants. and they did press forward through the mist of darkness, clinging to the rod of iron, even until they did come forth and partake of the fruit of the tree. 1 Nephi 9-10. 1 Nephi 3. I’ve noticed an increased interest in things like “chakras”, meditation, yoga, and the like that are associated with other religions. Can you further define the “pressing forward” that people do before they obtain the path and grab hold of the rod of iron? Nephi Desires to See – 1 Nephi 10:1-22 → An Epic Record – 1 Nephi 9:1-6. Is it because iron ore can come from rock, which can be a symbol of Christ? What does the rod of iron look like in Lehi’s dream? This means that we are now receiving revelation for ourselves and rely upon no man to teach us but the Lord. 1 Nephi 21 – Isaiah 49. 1 Nephi 12:5 “judgments of the Lord ” is the same in Psalm 19:9. The word “ashamed” is more than to be embarrassed. which led unto the tree by which I stood. 1 Nephi 12. ← Lehi’s Dream – 1 Nephi 8:1-38. 1 Néphi 8 . Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. How long from the vision until Lehi reached his bed at his house, I wonder? The key is to ask and discover the meaning to the dream.]. and many were lost from his view, wandering in strange roads. 30 But, to be short in writing, behold, he saw other multitudes pressing forward; and they came and caught hold of the end of the rod of iron; and they did press their way forward, continually holding fast to the rod of iron, until they came forth and fell down [at the feet of Christ] and partook of the fruit of the tree. Lehi’s dream. Read this week's KnoWhy connected with the Come Follow Me curriculum, and watch a video elucidating an insight in This is received however the Lord gives it to us, whether directly or through scripture, or another.] [The children of the Everlasting Covenant are given many opportunities to come unto Christ. 19 And I beheld a rod of iron, and it extended along the bank of the river, and led to the tree by which I stood. (3 Nephi 8:1).” KnoWhy 413 (March 6, 2018). [The beginning of the true vision. PR]. [concerning those who will fall]. Each person who will receive Eternal Life must partake. Nero 8.1.1.0 0 out of 5 based on 0 ratings. [No person, once having grabbed hold of the rod fails to come to the tree.]. and their manner of dress was exceedingly fine; and they were in the attitude of mocking and pointing their fingers towards those who had come at and were partaking of the fruit. ], 24 And it came to pass that I beheld others pressing forward, and they came forth and caught hold of the end [Always start at the end, not the middle.] The seeds of the fruit will become a part of you and make room for you to plant your own tree in the Garden of Heaven as you prepare to make way for your own posterity. 22. [The Adversary often deceives us as a being of light. 1 Nephi 5. 16 And it came to pass that they did come unto me and partake of the fruit also. I have eaten of this fruit and it is as Lehi describes. If they did not, this may be evidence of other times when the boys left camp. ( Log Out /  Was it thick or thinner than a regular tubular hand rail we encounter on earth around schools and sports stadiums? This can occur in this life or the next. This is not how this should be interpreted. Daniel C. Peterson. Nephi and His Asherah: A Note on 1 Nephi 11:8-23. I would advise that you not read the additional books unless you have read “How to Have Your Second Comforter” and are comfortable with the content. They will all come to the tree. 38 And after he had preached unto them, and also prophesied [spoke by the Spirit of God] unto them of many things, he bade them to keep the commandments of the Lord; and he did cease speaking unto them. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Peu de thèmes du Livre de Mormon ont suscité autant d'attention que le rêve de Léhi. ], 2 And it came to pass that while my father tarried in the wilderness he spake unto us, saying: Behold, I have dreamed a dream; or, in other words, I have seen a vision. I too have had dreams that make me deeply question the future and my relationships, that do not simply manifest but engender worry and joy. Is being “filled with this love” that Moroni speaks of different than partaking of the “fruit of the tree of life”, which also represents the “love of God”? ], 9 And it came to pass after I had prayed unto the Lord I beheld a large and spacious field. 1 Nephi 20 – Isaiah 48. 1 (2007): 56–63, 86. Article L1242-8-1. ]” Can you talk more about this? That’s why I’m asking my questions because the symbols aren’t connecting (for me), [When they grab hold of the rod they light up, which part is not included in Nephi’s explanation (something I saw in my personal vision). 1 Nephi 1. Any idea why the rod is made of iron? Vérifiez que vous possédez : Une connexion Internet (des frais de fournisseur de services Internet peuvent s’appliquer). Seeds of Every Kind . They continue to exercise the gifts of the Spirit via revelation (the word of God) until the perfect day. Il a fait l’objet de chants, de peintures et d’une multitude de discussions sur l’Évangile. [Various religions of the world. From what you’ve explained before these are they that make these covenants before condescending, to become sons or daughters of perdition. 1 Nephi 8:2 E adveniva que dum mi patre sojornava in le deserto, nos parlava, dicente: io faceva un sonio, o, in altere parolas, io habeva un vision. 1 Nephi 8 – 1 Nefi 8 1 And it came to pass that we had gathered together all manner of seeds of every kind, both of grain of every kind, and also of the seeds of fruit of every kind. I’m praying to get where I can feel the fruit, taste the flavor of it, but it is beautiful. After partaking of the fruit myself, my greatest desire would be for my spouse and my children also to partake (unless they beat me to it :)). 1 Nephi 20. I know many who are baptized who fall away. L'OEUVRE MEDIATRICE DE LA NOUVELLE ALLIANCE Ch. If it pulls us away from Christ it is to be avoided. I began to pray unto the Lord that he would have mercy on me, according to the multitude of his tender mercies. 25 And after they had partaken of the fruit of the tree they did cast their eyes about as if they were ashamed. 28 And after they had tasted of the fruit “they were ashamed, because of those that were scoffing at them; and they fell away into forbidden paths and were lost. I too have had dreams that make me deeply question the future and my relationships, that do not simply manifest but engender worry and joy. 1 à 13 Christ, souverain sacrificateur, introduit une nouvelle alliance. So that rules that out (water baptism). . 3 Nephi 8:1. Nephi₁’s vision of “a virgin, most beautiful and fair above all other virgins” who was “the mother of God, after the manner of the flesh” (1 Nephi 11:15, 18; 1830 edition) is connected to Lehi₁’s vision of a “a tree, whose fruit was desirable to make one happy” (1 Nephi 8:10). Nephi records this dream and Lehi's ensuing concern for his children in 1 Nephi 8, beginning with verse 2. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>, The Book of Mormon as an Ancient Israelite Temple, 1 Nephi 4:6-8 — LeGrand Baker — Laban and the Apostasy. 1 And it came to pass that we had gathered together all manner of seeds of every kind, both of grain of every kind, and also of the seeds of fruit of every kind. . If the tree is Jesus, and the fruit is eternal life, then we are not talking about a 2nd comforter experience here, are we? I wish I could taste the flavor of the fruit, all things are first spiritual before they are physical. The Second Comforter means different things to people. 1 I, Nephi, having been a born of b goodly c parents, therefore I was d taught somewhat in all the learning of my father; and having seen many e afflictions in the course of my days, nevertheless, having been highly favored of the Lord in all my days; yea, having had a great knowledge of the goodness and the mysteries of God, therefore I make a f record of my proceedings in my days. 1 Nephi 21. You said it’s a real tangible thing. “Three Days and Three Nights: Reassessing Jesus’s Entombment.” Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 17, no. Book of Mormon Central. Lehi’s dream. How do these other religions, that seem to have been around forever, fit into the big picture? 20 And I also beheld a strait and narrow path, [This path represents the commandments, the church, and all things which can help guide us in our journey.] Sign in. 1 Nephi 8 - Online Resources for teachers and leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Thank you for sharing that those who seek the path will find it. and it stood as it were in the air, high above the earth. This doesn’t describe the full picture of becoming a son of perdition. Without the camel, travel across the desert would have been impossible. ], 32 And it came to pass that many were drowned in the depths of the fountain; [overcome by Satan’s temptation.] He Went Forth upon the Many Waters – 1 Nephi 13:12-13 (8/1/2016) The Power of God Was with Them – 1 Nephi 13:16-19 (7/4/2016) The Gift and the Power of the Holy Ghost – 1 Nephi 13:37 (6/23/2016) Many Covenants…Have They Taken Away – 1 Nephi 13:26 (5/31/2016) They Who Shall Seek to Bring Forth My Zion – 1 Nephi 13:37 (1/21/2016) PR]. Interestingly it was also partaking of the fruit that led to the fall. [Different groups of people will find their way to perdition. Mises à jour sur Nero. 1 Nephi 8:1 . Seeds of Fruit: While journeying in the wilderness, Lehi dreams about a dark and dreary wilderness and a tree of life. PR], In verse 32: “and many were lost from his view, wandering in strange roads. Are there laws in heaven that allow righteous parents to advocate before the Father for their wayward children? 1 Nephi 8:1 — The Families Gather Seeds. If you need to reference the text for 1 Nephi 8:6, you can find 1 Nephi Chapter 8 here.I am also relying on “The Book of Mormon: The Earliest Text.”At times there will be variations between these two editions. 1 Nephi 11. The field is leading to the purpose of the vision. [This verse says much about Lehi’s style of parenting. Does it look like cast iron or is it polished and smooth? ], 15 And it came to pass that I beckoned unto them; and I also did say unto them with a loud voice that they should come unto me, and partake of the fruit, which was desirable above all other fruit. Yes, these are 4th estate, but as I’ve said before, a person does not accidentally, by simply jumping to the other side, becomes a son of perdition after tasting of the fruit. Contents. Man in white robe? Verse 1: it seems clear that they lived in the Valley for quite some time. Reading Nephi – 8:1-8. by James Olsen • December 2, 2015 • 3 Comments. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! It seemed to be a dark grey and palm width, but I don’t remember how it was fastened to the ground or not. Reading Nephi – 8:1-8. by James Olsen • December 2, 2015 • 3 Comments. You should seek a revelation regarding those details if you wish to know. We often see different things. ]”, and then: “and they did press their way forward, continually holding fast to the rod of iron, until they came forth and fell down [at the feet of Christ] and partook of the fruit of the tree.” (which fruit… is eternal life). 1 Nephi 8; 1 Nephi 9; 1 Nephi 10; 1 Nephi 11; 1 Nephi 12; 1 Nephi 13; 1 Nephi 14; 1 Nephi 15; 1 Nephi 16; 1 Nephi 17; 1 Nephi 18; 1 Nephi 19; 1 Nephi 20; 1 Nephi 21; 1 Nephi 22; 2 Nephi; Jacob; Enos; Jarom ; Omni; Words of Mormon; Mosiah; Alma; Helaman; 3 Nephi; 4 Nephi; Mormon; Ether; Moroni; 1 Nephi 11. PR], You said: ” [No person, once having grabbed hold of the rod fails to come to the tree. Lehi felt emotionally exhausted as well because of what he learned about Egypt and the fate of his people. 1 Nephi Chapter 8 « Previous Next » Book of Mormon Annotations; Chapter 8 . [Those who have received the gift of the Holy Ghost (grabbed hold of the rod) cannot be lost. You are here: Home » Seminary » Book of Mormon » Lessons » Week Three » 1 Nephi 8. 1 Nephi 18. 1 Nephi 10:8 - 1 Nephi 10:22 _____ 1 Nephi 10:8 Yea, even he should go forth and cry in the wilderness: Prepare ye the way of the Lord, and make his paths straight; for there standeth one among you whom ye know not; and he is mightier than I, whose shoe’s latchet I am not worthy to unloose. It said that “The building stood in the air” no solid foundation. I wonder why it is always the fruit that symbolizes something great to desire. How can you prepare the way of the Lord using your unique talents and circumstances? ← Family of Ishmael – 1 Nephi 7:1-22. He began to feel the need for God’s help. 6 And it came to pass that he spake unto me, and bade me follow him. Does the path begin exactly where the rod of iron begins or is there a bit of a path leading up to the rod of iron (symbolically and literally)? [Church of the Devil] And after they did enter into that building they did point the finger of scorn at me and those that were partaking of the fruit also; but we heeded them not. 2 And the angel saith unto me, what beholdest thou? A stylized tree with obvious religious significance already occurs as an art motif in fourth-millennium Mesopotamia, and, by the second millennium BC, it is found everywhere within the orbit of the ancient Near Eastern oikumene, including Egypt, Greece, and the Indus civilization. Modifié par Ordonnance n°2017-1387 du 22 septembre 2017 - art. “How Can We Know What to Believe about Joseph Smith’s Personal Character? 1 Nephi 15. The most common misconception is that as long as we hold to our scriptures and church authorities (iron rod) we will be safe from the mists of darkness. 35 And Laman and Lemuel partook not of the fruit, said my father. We will read about this in 3 Nephi 11. 1 Nephi 14. 8 à 10 :39 Chapitre 8. What is it about the fruit that makes it so special? Did he write about this vision in the book of Lehi? Lehi prophesied his family would be scattered. I can’t even fathom imagining losing one of my children spiritually forever. And I looked and beheld many nations and kingdoms. Without the date, one of the few foodstuffs that do not perish in the heat of the desert, those making long desert journeys would have little to eat. 27 And it was filled with people, both old and young, both male and female; [Many levels in  Satan’s realm.] If the tree is Jesus, and the rod is revelation towards personal commandments, then how can it be that all who grab the iron rod make it to the tree? 1 Nephi 13. [They had brought various dried fruit and grains. I was told that hope is not lost for Laman and Lemuel. ( Log Out /  The seeds, tents, and people all suggest we are seeing a large and well equipped caravan. Why do we need to actually partake? Obviously it’s not just its nutritional value. Nephi had not mentioned seeds before this time, and they may not have brought them when they left Jerusalem. Was there anything about it’s visual portrayal that held symbolism? Perhaps you’ve posted something on this previously. [The mist of darkness can be many things: unbelief, false traditions, philosophies of men, temptation to sin, doubt, depression, etc. To partake of the fruit of the Tree of Life is to receive Eternal Life and literally stand in the presence of God, which can occur in this life or the next. Nephi had not mentioned seeds before this time, and they may not have brought them when they left Jerusalem. This is one more evidence that they had camels. Posted on December 11, 2018 by Pure Revelations. That is comforting to those of us still fumbling about! 23 And it came to pass that there arose a mist of darkness; yea, even an exceedingly great mist of darkness, insomuch that they who had commenced in the path did lose their way, that they wandered off and were lost. 3 And he saith unto me, these are the nations and kingdoms of the Gentiles. ], 10 And it came to pass that I beheld a tree, [representing Christ] whose fruit was desirable to make one happy. In this is a mystery. 1 Nephi 18 “Murmur Not” 1 Nephi 19. 26 And I also cast my eyes round about, and beheld, on the other side of the river of water, [The barrier between God and Satan.] Are there words of comfort you can offer to parents whose children don’t choose Christ? Does it change our physical and/or spiritual body? 17 And it came to pass that I was desirous that Laman and Lemuel should come and partake of the fruit also; wherefore, I cast mine eyes towards the head of the river, that perhaps I might see them. Such things occur slowly over time and result in act of complete rejection of their vows. . My vision of the Tree of Life had different details, some were the same, some things they saw I didn’t. ( Log Out /  Are there truths that explain things that we can learn from if one is careful to check for their truthfulness?

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